Titan mobile trouble (times three)

[snorhyvel]

Hi all. I'm new to Titan mobile, maybe it's some simple mistakes I've done, but I'm totally stuck... I have three different problems:

I've done some cues with shapes to make movements on moving heads, they work fine, until I put the cues in a cuelist... when I do that, the FX is disabled, everything is there but not the movement... I have not made any masking or so (that I'm aware of)

problem no2 is that sometimes when I for example have done a cue with strobing on a LED PAR, the strobe effect continues on the next cue, even if the LED PARs isn't in that cue at all...

no3: I have two Cuelists, both timed from Winamp. They are save on separeat pages in T M, but still, no matter wich one of the songs I start in winamp, only one of the cuelists run. No matter wich cuelist that's connected in T M...

anyone have any idea?

[niclights]

1) How are you putting the cues in the cuelist?

2) This is because of tracking which is enabled by default. Either turn this off in [Playback Options] or specifically tell the LED's to be off on the following cue.

3) I need to think about this...

[snorhyvel]

1. I have made several cues, like front, blue led's, red moving heads and so on... when creating a step in the cue list I choose one or several cues and then add to cue list (or is it append, don't remember now)

2. ok, I'll try turn off tracking. Often on the following cue the led's are static in some colour, or turned off... but I'll try it anyway...

3. Thank you in advance

[niclights]

1) Do you mean you are using 'Quick Build' record mode or another method such as include?

[snorhyvel]

1) Do you mean you are using 'Quick Build' record mode or another method such as include?

that I'm not sure of... but, I made it as written in the manual, and I think I used record mode: stage...

[niclights]

I have been unable to reproduce your problems.

For making cuelist cues from cues containing shapes I tested both 'quick build' and 'stage' record modes and checked this worked for cues originally created using 'channel', 'fixture' or 'stage' record modes. In all cases the cue list contained the shapes as expected. Please check you are running at least v6 (currently latest) as recording shapes using 'stage' did not work in previous versions.

For timecode I tested two cuelists connected to timecode, source winamp, timer enabled where I tried placing the lists on different pages and different handles, different pages and the same handle both on the physical faders and the 'virtual' playbacks workspace. In all cases cues from both lists fired as expected when running winamp. I'm not sure what to suggest here other than double-checking the lists were definitely connected and had the correct timecode. I have not tested this in v5 so it is possible there was an issue although I'm haven't got it listed specifically as a fix for v6.

HTH

[snorhyvel]

ok, I'll check everyhing again next week when I'm there where the equipment are located... I'll let you know if I have some further questions Thank you very much for taking your time answering

[snorhyvel]

No I'm in place where the equipment is. First I noticed, it was v5, so now I've downloaded v6, but not yet installed it. I have have made some tests, I think turning off the Track function seemed to solve problem #2. I have a new thought about #1, Where the CueList is displayed, you ca see cue #, and in the bottom, I P C G B E S FX, and that's what attributes that are active for each cue? However, FX is always "greyed out" so maybe that's a part of the problem? But how do I enable FX in the CueList?

[niclights]

The IPCGBESFX in this case tells you what groups of attributes exist in the cue. So it is telling you there are no shapes stored there.

As I said above if you created the cue using 'by stage' in v5 then it will not contain the shape, even if you load that show into v6.

As an aside note that using 'by stage' is quite unusual as it will record absolutely everything and this is generally not what you would want. The main purpose of 'by stage' is when you are in a situation where you quickly need to capture something and don't have time to be specific. The intention being to go back later and edit it.

[snorhyvel]

so when I install v6 I should work to remove the cue and reinsert it in the cuelist? without editing the cue? beacuse the cue works when I run it standalone or what it's called...

is there any possible issues that could appear when upgrading?

[niclights]

There are many ways of creating and editing cues. It is hard to say which method is appropriate. If you originally created it by storing cues, firing them and then recording the look in a cue-list using 'stage' then you could repeat this choosing to replace the relevant cue. Or you could setup the shape and anything else required and replace the cue directly. Or you could merge in the missing data. Etc.

I recommend some time reading the manual paying particular attention to record modes and the programmer.

[snorhyvel]

Now I've upgraded to v6.0 (in release notes it said that 6.1 was released yesterday, but I can't find any download?). Now it worked (almost) fine to replace the cue whitout shape with the same, and the shape worked now. But now the red colour disapeared instead. It turned white. I tried several ways, stage, fixture and quick mode, replace and merge. It was som different results, but not the result I wanted.... This is so strange to me... Do you possibly have any more ideas?

[snorhyvel]

I think I solved the part with the shape problem now, as long as i record my cuelists in stage mode it seems to work...

But another shot with the cuelist/winamp problem. I deleted cuelist 2 and made it new from scratch, edited all the times and so on... When I started winamp så still there is cues from cuelist 1 that appears (together with cues from CL2). So I deleted cuelist 1 as well and made some cue steps in it, and timed them. I started the song in winamp, and the problem remains, now it runs my new cues from CL 1 together with those from CL 2... Do I have to disable the "run from winamp timecode" on each CL that should not run, or what have I made wrong?

[niclights]

Sorry, I am confused by what you are trying to achieve.

In Timecode you need to connect any cue-lists you want to control. If you do not want a particular list to be controlled by timecode then you must remove it from the connected list.

[snorhyvel]

sorry, I found out now... I found another way to connect cue lists so that was the problem, that two cue lists was loaded...

so, now all my problems are solved, thank you for all help.