hi guys is it possible to have my fixtures fade there intensity from 100% to 0% as i move my faders from 0% to 100%.
eg. i have fader 1 with my spots with intensity 100%. i have fader 2 with the same 2 spots prog'ed with their intensity down to 0%.
thank you.
fade down intensity on fader up.
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I can see its uses for cross-fade.
You could potentially invert the dimmer channel permanently in the personality file, but I doubt this is what you want.
How about programming a two-step chase with 'stop on final step'.
If you unlink the second step you would be able to execute a fade to the second state by [GO] or playback add button. Or you could manually fade between the two by wheel A.
You could potentially invert the dimmer channel permanently in the personality file, but I doubt this is what you want.
How about programming a two-step chase with 'stop on final step'.
If you unlink the second step you would be able to execute a fade to the second state by [GO] or playback add button. Or you could manually fade between the two by wheel A.
We're both answering a different question I think 
I thought he wanted both; eg one fader 0 -> 100 and one 100 -> 0. You probably could inverse the fixture file, but that wouldn't give you both (just one or the other).
You could also modify the fixture file for the dimmer output to be a LTP channel. That way you could program one fader to 100% and the next one to fade to 0% (mode 2). But still the question remains: what are you trying to acheive, because there's probably a better way to do it.
I thought he wanted both; eg one fader 0 -> 100 and one 100 -> 0. You probably could inverse the fixture file, but that wouldn't give you both (just one or the other).
You could also modify the fixture file for the dimmer output to be a LTP channel. That way you could program one fader to 100% and the next one to fade to 0% (mode 2). But still the question remains: what are you trying to acheive, because there's probably a better way to do it.
Re: fade down intensity on fader up.
beck wrote:hi guys is it possible to have my fixtures fade there intensity from 100% to 0% as i move my faders from 0% to 100%.
eg. i have fader 1 with my spots with intensity 100%. i have fader 2 with the same 2 spots prog'ed with their intensity down to 0%.
thank you.
I think i know what you mean. Did it on a hog once. I did it on a pearl for a while ago. What you need is 2 faders. You program your spots in mode 2: int. 100%, keep the fader on 255. On 2:nd fader you program spots in mode 2: int 0%. Run show in take over mode and you got it.
I hope thats the answer you were looking for.
Tompa
Re: fade down intensity on fader up.
Tompa wrote:I think i know what you mean. Did it on a hog once. I did it on a pearl for a while ago. What you need is 2 faders. You program your spots in mode 2: int. 100%, keep the fader on 255. On 2:nd fader you program spots in mode 2: int 0%. Run show in take over mode and you got it.
I hope thats the answer you were looking for.
Tompa
Does that go for HTP channels too? I was wondering that myself. If you've done it you could probably answer my question: what do you use this for?
Re: fade down intensity on fader up.
(iCe) wrote:Tompa wrote:I think i know what you mean. Did it on a hog once. I did it on a pearl for a while ago. What you need is 2 faders. You program your spots in mode 2: int. 100%, keep the fader on 255. On 2:nd fader you program spots in mode 2: int 0%. Run show in take over mode and you got it.
I hope thats the answer you were looking for.
Tompa
Does that go for HTP channels too? I was wondering that myself. If you've done it you could probably answer my question: what do you use this for?
I dont really use it for dimmers. mostly i use it for "Followspoting". When you have a small rigg for a fashion show you can use some washes to follow the models. Programing pan/tilt. Tried with dimmers and it worked as well like cmy. =)
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Tumbleweed
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okej....
i might have been mistaken but i will try again tomorow on my d4
Still the question remains: what would you need the dimmer 0->100 and 100->0 for?
I use the followspotting mode too sometimes, that only takes me 2 faders:
- one for intensity, just regular 0->100%
- one to fade to position B. I program position A (lets say stage left) on a preset pallet and program position B on a fader. Set the mode to mode 2 and use the fader to track the model.
I also use mode 2 to create a temporary strobe effect on movers, sometimes programmed in white too for more effect: works great. But I never had the wish to do this for the intensity, so I still don't get it
I use the followspotting mode too sometimes, that only takes me 2 faders:
- one for intensity, just regular 0->100%
- one to fade to position B. I program position A (lets say stage left) on a preset pallet and program position B on a fader. Set the mode to mode 2 and use the fader to track the model.
I also use mode 2 to create a temporary strobe effect on movers, sometimes programmed in white too for more effect: works great. But I never had the wish to do this for the intensity, so I still don't get it
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Tumbleweed
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here is a reason to do it...
it's not for intensity, it's for prism rotation in a Mac 700.
The counter-clockwise rotation values are from 20 -> 79, fast to slow
the stopped values are 80-89, then clockwise rotation is 90-149.
150-255 is prism off.
So, if you wanted to do a mode 2 channel for counterclockwise (anticlockwise for those on the other side of the Pond), you would probably want the stop value at the bottom of the fader, and the fast value at the top of the fader, so the fader would have to work in reverse.
it's not for intensity, it's for prism rotation in a Mac 700.
The counter-clockwise rotation values are from 20 -> 79, fast to slow
the stopped values are 80-89, then clockwise rotation is 90-149.
150-255 is prism off.
So, if you wanted to do a mode 2 channel for counterclockwise (anticlockwise for those on the other side of the Pond), you would probably want the stop value at the bottom of the fader, and the fast value at the top of the fader, so the fader would have to work in reverse.
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Tumbleweed
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no, I fully understand how mode 2 works.
and the Mac 700 did exactly what I said it would do.
the prism kicked in, then the rotation started off fast, then got slower, stopped, then went the other direction as the fader moved up.
there's nothing you can do about that with this ancient operating system (or with chamsys or with a hog)
but, anyway, this ain't about LTP channels, it's about HTP channels.
If you want to fader to fade a light down as you move the fader up, use an MA console.
and the Mac 700 did exactly what I said it would do.
the prism kicked in, then the rotation started off fast, then got slower, stopped, then went the other direction as the fader moved up.
there's nothing you can do about that with this ancient operating system (or with chamsys or with a hog)
but, anyway, this ain't about LTP channels, it's about HTP channels.
If you want to fader to fade a light down as you move the fader up, use an MA console.
Please try to avoid comments like that. They are not helpful.
I am going to return to the LTP matter since it may be useful to people who might read this based on a search relating to 'fade down while moving fader up'.
I have to say that Olie was correct and you were not, certainly in your example.
In mode2 you can have any value relative to originating value and fade to that, beit a higher or lower value.
So, in the mac700 prism rotation example, you can set originating value at stop 80 (either by playback, palette, wheel or numeric). You can set a mode2 memory at 20. Fading up will gradually increase anti-clockwise rotation up to full speed (down to 20 in DMX terms). You could even set half at clockwise and half at anti-clockwise and fading up would gradually increase rotation speeds in a mirrored fashion across the rig, if that makes any sense.
As mentioned earlier, one of the most common uses is for momentary strobe via shutter channel. And often this involves a 'fade' from a high value (100%/open) to a lower strobe value.
Hope that clears things up.
I am going to return to the LTP matter since it may be useful to people who might read this based on a search relating to 'fade down while moving fader up'.
I have to say that Olie was correct and you were not, certainly in your example.
In mode2 you can have any value relative to originating value and fade to that, beit a higher or lower value.
So, in the mac700 prism rotation example, you can set originating value at stop 80 (either by playback, palette, wheel or numeric). You can set a mode2 memory at 20. Fading up will gradually increase anti-clockwise rotation up to full speed (down to 20 in DMX terms). You could even set half at clockwise and half at anti-clockwise and fading up would gradually increase rotation speeds in a mirrored fashion across the rig, if that makes any sense.
As mentioned earlier, one of the most common uses is for momentary strobe via shutter channel. And often this involves a 'fade' from a high value (100%/open) to a lower strobe value.
Hope that clears things up.
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