Mirrored shapes in Classic??

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Mirrored shapes in Classic??

Postby Beast » 29 Jan 2012, 13:01

Having started my AVO life up on the TITAN software(Expert and Mobile), I once in a while "regress" to the Classic software with a Tiger, and having a little difficulty in mirroring movement shapes.
The effect in Titan as follows:
selecting fixtures
choosing shape
adjusting size
selecting odds/even
reversing selected fixtures
selecting all and setting spread to 2
saving in mode 2 to playback.
-Nice mirrored adjustable movement.
How do i accomplish this on the Tiger?? If possible??
Sorry if it´s obvious, but couldn`t seem to get it working last time out:-)

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Postby niclights » 29 Jan 2012, 13:13

Presumably by 'mirroring movement' you mean symmetrical circle (or, more specifically, pan).

The reason you cannot achieve this is because the start phase needs to be 180 degrees out for the 'mirrored' half of the fixtures. This is possible in Titan but not in Classic, at least not from the UI.

The only way to do this in Classic is to create a custom shape in the shapefile.

For example, original circle code:

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SHAPE "Circle 1" "SIN"
5  40  64   0   0   1   0   0
6  40  64   0   0   1  90   0
SEND

Reversed circle code:

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SHAPE "Circle Rev" "SIN"
5  40  64   0   0   1  180  0
6  40  64   0   0   1  90   0
SEND


Set half of fixtures to 'circle 1', other half to 'circle rev' (and reversed). Spread 1. Ensure size and speed are identical for all and you're good to go.
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Postby Beast » 29 Jan 2012, 15:14

Yes Nic, thats exactly what i meant, and thx for the quick reply.

I´ll try that next time around.(Tiger is a housedesk at a regular venue, so....)

Will probably try something simular with the Tilt swing and Dimmer spreads and let you know how it goes..

Thx again

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Postby niclights » 29 Jan 2012, 16:51

Actually if you try this with tilt swing or dimmer spread it will have no effect. Putting them 180 degrees out and reversing will cancel each other out and look identical.

To get symmetrical tilt or dimmer you need to think about selection order instead. Titan allows you to have more than one fixture set to a particular order step making this a bit easier but it's still possible to do it in Classic.

Consider four fixtures in a row. You want the outside pair to move down while the inside pair move up. Half of the fixtures are in one position and the other are in the opposite which is a spread of 2 but to get the mirror the selection must be such that the odd and even order numbers are symmetrical.

For example:

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Fixture  1  2  3  4
Order    1  2  4  3
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Postby Beast » 30 Jan 2012, 08:00

Ofcourse Nic, get it. Haven´t given the selection order to much thought, as one achieves some of the same effect with the "reverse selected" function on the Titan. Think i will be doing that in the future, Titan as well!!

Thanks again.

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