Need Help Timecode on Tiger Touch :(

[fsl.vn]

Hi all,
I just want to know how to use timecode on TT (i can do with internal timecode) , I'm using soundcard alesis io2 and reaper software, i don't know how to send midi timecode from io2 to TT board. I connected with TT board through midi cable, and change timecode to midi timecode also. Do i need to trigger the soundcard or reaper software first ? i saw on the soundcard displayed midi out already , but when i connect to midi in port in TT but it's not working , no display or detect any ext device? Pls help
Thanks

Sr for my bad english

[niclights]

You should only have to set timecode to MIDI and then start the external device.

[fsl.vn]

Hi,

Thanks for rep , i 've already set timecode to midi on TT , but when i start playing a song in reaper software , i saw the led midi timecode out was displayed in soundcard(with green color) , but the timecode in TT 's not running . Do i need to trigger on my TT or my reaper software?
Thanks

[icke_siegen]

You may test the MIDI input:

- open USB expert console
- in the left pane, select one of the DMX panels (sorry, I don't know which one carries the MIDI in)
- in the right pane, select the MIDI tab
- select 'Watch MIDI' - hopefully you see the incoming MIDI bursts

[fsl.vn]

You may test the MIDI input:

- open USB expert console
- in the left pane, select one of the DMX panels (sorry, I don't know which one carries the MIDI in)
- in the right pane, select the MIDI tab
- select 'Watch MIDI' - hopefully you see the incoming MIDI bursts

Thanks for rep , but i don't find the way to open usb expert console like u said, i used Avolites Tiger Touch and i connect the soundcard to Tiger Touch via midi out port. Can u explain me how to trigger reaper software with the Alesis io2 soundcard to transmid midi clock to my console? Thanks.

[icke_siegen]

As Nic has already stated, usually all you have to do is (1) hook up soundcard and console with a MIDI cable (soundcard MIDI out linked to console MIDI in), (2) set console's timecode source to 'MIDI', and (3) start the MTC source (in that case, Reaper).

Since for whatever reason this seems not to work in your case, I'd suggest to start looking somewhere. And even on the Tiger Touch there is a program called USB Expert console (click on 'Tools' top-left on screen, then 'Control Panel', then select 'USB Expert Console'. With that, and the described steps, you can determine if the desk properly receives MIDI. If it doesn't, check cable etc., and finally check Reaper's settings.

I am sorry I am not familiar with Reaper. Will try it out as soon as I find the time - in my case it should output MIDI via an Edirol UA-25. No idea if this would make any sense...

[fsl.vn]

I followed to your steps and the TT can receive midi timecode from alesis io2 ( it displayed in the TT's monitor when i played a song in reaper and went to midi watcher) but i don't know how to synchronise time in reaper with Tiger Touch console, any suggestion for me?

Thanks

[icke_siegen]

Cool, so the first hurdle is taken - the console reads your Reaper's timecode.

Now, follow section 8.6.5 - Running a cuelist to timecode - of the manual.

Essentially it's not that you synchronize the desk's timer to Reaper. It's more like: the desk reads Reaper's timecode, and reacts on it. When e.g. a cue is programmed to be fired at 00:03:10:00, it will be fired exactly when this time stamp (of the selected source) is reached. For a start I'd suggest to forget about the frames section (the right-most :00 part in my example): there are several timecode variants, with 24, 25, 30 (and for CDs even 72) frames per second (and MIDI in particular is special, since in the background the calculations are done in quarter notes), and if you program a cue to xx:xx:xx:28, but then your source sends only 24 fps, the cue will never get fired.

You might do the frames later on, when you know how the whole thing works, and what your signals are.

[fsl.vn]

Hi,

Thanks for answering. I've corrected on reaper to send timecode for my Tiger Touch, but when chosing midi timecode source on TT, then play 1 song in reaper to send midi timecode for TT, there was not time run in TT ( the clock on TT still displayed 00:00:00 ). Does it have something wrong? Or i just set cue follow reaper?

[fsl.vn]

Hi
Just have an updated , pls take a look at these pictures :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... -00125.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... -00124.jpg

In these pictures , i think the Tiger Touch was receiving MTC from my soundcard , when i played a song in reaper , it displayed like that , and if i stopped playing , it displayed stopped receiving too . And then i follow the TT's manual 8.6.5 , it's not working when i go to midi timecode . In internal timecode i try it work perfectly , but external MTC didn't work. Any suggestion for me ?

[icke_siegen]

Ah.

Looks like the desk receives something - but not timecode. Which means Reaper is sending something, but it's not timecode. If it were timecode, then you could see different values, and not always 08 00 or something alike.

I am deeply sorry, but you'd need to look at Reaper a little more. Some hints, don't know if this helps, from http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=4199

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Normally, I just set the software sequencer to send or recieve MTC and it does. The signal is transmitted thru the midi ports.

Anyway, I just learned how to make reaper send MTC thru the midi output to my VS-1880.

Add a new track in reaper, then insert an SMPTE/MTC event. Drag the event to extend to the length of the song. Go to the source properties and uncheck "Send Audio LTC" and then check "Send midi (MTC)."

Then go to that track's I/O parameters and set the "Midi Hardware Output" to the midi port your external DAW is using. You're done. It works.

So reaper IS able to send MTC thru the midi output. I am glad to know that. I still have another problem with reaper's sync capabilities, but I don't want to turn this thread into a b-tch session... LOL!

Well, this post is somewhat old (4 years), but maybe this does the trick.

[fsl.vn]

Hi

I tried that way before , pls look at this picture :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... tled-6.jpg

In that picture , output i selected : io2 , and channel you see there is a lot of channel here , so can you tell me which channel i will used to send midi timecode to TT. I tried original channel and it's not working

Thanks

[fsl.vn]

Hi

I tried that way before , pls look at this picture :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... tled-6.jpg

In that picture , output i selected : io2 , and channel you see there is a lot of channel here , so can you tell me which channel i will used to send midi timecode to TT. I tried original channel and it's not working

Hi
Just have an update , pls look at these pic , the TT i think was receiving something diffrents , but it still didn't work .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... -00128.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... -00127.jpg

[icke_siegen]

I actually downloaded and installed reaper only for testing this myself, so please dont't ask for any other details.
After fiddling with the settings for hours, I simply did like in the formerly quoted description, and it works straight away, the crucial thing were two options:

- Go to the source properties and uncheck "Send Audio LTC" and then check "Send midi (MTC)."

- Then go to that track's I/O parameters and set the "Midi Hardware Output"

my setup: Reaper 4.1.0 (latest), Edirol UA25, Tiger Touch version 4.1.9

Please have a look at the picture here

And as suspected earlier: MTC seems to be good only for full seconds - the frames jump. Maybe this can be tweaked further, but that's beyond my scope.

[fsl.vn]

Hi icke_siegen

Here is some picture i set up in my reaper , pls have a look :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... eaper2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... eaper3.jpg

I did exactly in your picture below , but it didn't work for me :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/ ... eaper1.jpg

And in your picture below , i saw you used FX in track 2 , so what FX did you use ?

Could you record an video or capture what is displayed on Tiger Touch when you send the MTC to this. And when you program the Midi Timecode with the MTC received.

Thanks

fsl