Expert Titan: first try

[(iCe)]

Hi,

we've just received our new Tiger & Expert consoles (whooohooo!) so I immediately started trying them out.

I've got some questions about the Expert.
1. I saved a shape to a playback. After that, I included the playback so the shape was in the memory again. Now a weird thing happens when you press delete (shape gen), select the shape and press ok, choose "no" (you don't want to delete the shape after all): it deletes it anyway! It doesn't really matter what you answer to the confirmation question.
2. I cannot find the option to patch a dimmer as relay or @ an output percentage, is that option to be implemented or is it skipped?
3. Could someone explain how I can create a fixture file for a showtec octostrip led bar with a virtual dimmer (that should be possible, right?)? I found the normal fixture file, but that doesn't have a virtual dimmer which I would love to have. Also the colours (RGB) in that file are located on the focus wheel, that's annoying.
4. How can I start classic mode if Titan for some reason doesn't do it for me?

More questions will rise later on I think Thanks!

[Braathe]

2. Under Generic there is someting called Generic 6 Channel Relay, i have never tried it but it may be what your looking for.

3. Do you only want 3ch (RGB )with a virtual dimmer ? If yes you can will Find RGB with virtual dimmer under Generic. http://www.avolitesdownload.com/Persona ... efault.asp

This will put the virtual dimmer on the dimmer wheel and RGB on the correct places.

4. Page 23 in the manual tells you this , more easy for me to link you to the manual where you can see the pichture than trying to explain where the button is. http://files.avolitesdownload.com/Manua ... n_v1.1.pdf

[niclights]

2 - In current version you cannot set curves for fixtures, but you can set on playbacks: [playback options]/[curves]

For these to work with intensity on fader you also must set to mode1.

[kloas]

3.
I requested the personality (with v-dim) some time ago and it is at the fixture library download-site for a couple of weeks now.

[(iCe)]

Thanks, that helps!

@ Klaos: I see only one octostrip version in the fixture library for Titan; is that the correct one? Was the old one overwritten?

@ niclights: are different dimmer types and % patching going to be supported in future versions?

@ Braathe: no, I need 6 channel support for strobe effects. Thanks for the manual link, I searched it before but couldn't find 'classic' so I thought it wasn't in there. Guess I was wrong

[niclights]

The Showtec Octostrip file now has v-dim.
Glancing at the xml it looks like it has simply been updated to include this as standard, although it may be worth pointing out that d4 personality files can contain multiple modes.

I can't say about curves on fixtures, but I have suggested and would like to hope so, yes. I certainly see it as an important function and need it myself. Curves can function as limiters too, although maybe it would be easier to have this separately.

[(iCe)]

Octostrips are working fine now, thanks.

I also need to control 24 active sunstrips. There is a fixture file which has 10 channels per strip (the way I want to control them). I tried that and it has the 10 channels spread out over different attributes. I don't really care about that, but I can't get any shape gen effects on the dimmer attributes now as far as I can see. Is there a way to easily program a dimmer spread or something like that?

[niclights]

I did some work on this recently.

Have a look here:

http://www.avolitesshop.co.uk/phpBB3/vi ... php?t=1152

[(iCe)]

Hi nic,

I tried the cell approach... somehow it doesnt seem to respond to size/speed on fader, why is that? Am I missing an option somewhere?

[niclights]

Set to mode2?

[(iCe)]

Forgot that... was that a nescessary step in Classic Pearl OS?

Also I noticed the personality file of the active sunstrip seems to be in LTP values. The attributes state 'HTP', but they don't react that way. For instance; locate fixture and clear leaves on all the lights. I managed by making all playbacks mode 2, but normal HTP channels would be better.

Ideally, the fixture file should have 10 HTP channels which are mastered by a virtual dimmer which is the fixtures fader itself. That way you could combine your cell and spread shapes with the normale dimmer curves of the Pearl, that could create real killer effects if you ask me.

[niclights]

The mode setting has always been a necessary step. Mode2 specifically allows the fading to apply by fader position, but other modes allow timed fades. The size/speed parameters are separate so you can determine what is or is not affected by this timing or fader position.

You're absolutely correct about the LTP values. Currently Titan cannot work with more than one HTP attribute per fixture. Hopefully this can be solved. AFAIK, the name itself is just inherited from a template in the builder software. Normally it's fine for an 8bit (or 16bit) dimmer that you create, but here it is misleading.

This limitation was the main reason I looked into shape gen options. Your idea about v-dim is interesting. I can't think of a reason why this won't work, albeit with LTP channels for now. While only one v-dim can be used per fixture, any number of channels can be mastered by it. I will definitely look into it and let you know.

[niclights]

As a follow-up, the v-dim idea works perfectly. Doing this means you have option of keeping just speed on cell shape fader with a separate intensity master/chase/shape.

[(iCe)]

Could you please tell me how to implement it? I don't know if I'll use it this weekend (kind of short in time), but maybe I will.

Another question: fixture groups now seem to add up to eachother no selecting. On the old Pearl I was used to the fact that an already selected group was discarded as soon as I selected a new group. Can I somehow set this behaviour?

[(iCe)]

Another question... for some reason all the CMY attributes (CP Alpha Beam 300, MAC250 Wash) are located under the Zoom/Focus button on the console. Where is this coming from and how can I fix it?