Page 1 of 1

Include Feature.

Posted: 05 Mar 2008, 22:06
by neil
Just a quick question.

For a 'properly cued up' show, I am going to be recording some movement shapes.

My question is, if I have a shape (just pan & tilt) done in record channel mode, and I use the include feature for the movement in the cues; when I update/re-record the cue, will it then update the cues that have taken the Include feature from it...?

Also, does this change at all between Operating Systems - ie D4, Sapphire, Pearl etc?

Many Thanks :)

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 02:05
by niclights
I can't quite figure out what you mean.

Can you explain differently?

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 11:37
by neil
Sorry, I guess my question is, will the include feature work like a pallet.

So, when you update/re-record a pallet, everything with the pallet used is updated.

Therefore, I am wondering if, when you include from a sub, if you update that sub (that you have included from), will it update the memories that have 'used' the Include feature?

Does this make a bit more sense?

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 14:01
by niclights
I wondered if that was what you were asking.

No. Include just takes information in the playback and places it in the programmer.

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 14:05
by neil
Doh, thought that was the case!

Problem I have is to run a cued show, I have shapes in the cues - but obviously, the shapes vary from venue to venue. On a Hog I would be able to store the updated shape like I would a pallet... but I can't do that on Avos.

Can you offer any advise on this?

Cheers

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 14:28
by niclights
Presumably it's the size that varies?

The only thing you could do is set the fader to mode2 with size set to timed, but undoubtedly that would stop the rest of the cue from working properly.

If the shape is essentially the same for all the cues used then you could keep it separate but again this probably defeats the object.

Which leaves you with having to manually edit the size on each relevant cue. I can't see any way to avoid that.

Posted: 06 Mar 2008, 14:30
by neil
yer no worries. Thought that would be the case.


Thanks for helping :)

Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 12:40
by djrappa
If you're on the D4 and using a cuelist then why not put your shape that you use often in a seperate cue and autoload it?

Then you would only have to update the shape in that one stand alone cue and then whenever your other list autoloads it, it will have the same value. Only need to edit once.