Multiple Cue lists via Winamp timecode problem

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JonasA
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Multiple Cue lists via Winamp timecode problem

Postby JonasA » 01 May 2014, 07:09

Running a dance show this weekend and would love to use the timecode function.

recorded all cues using Stage mode.
1 cue list per song.

When recording time to cuelist1 i works fine,
but when recording cuelist2 and running, its just gone mad,
possitions,colors,effecst etc get mixed in from cuelist1

has someone else had this error and fixed it ?

Would realy love so solve this!

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Re: Multiple Cue lists via Winamp timecode problem

Postby icke_siegen » 02 May 2014, 07:16

I guess the problem is that multiple cuelists are connected, and thus the cues are fired in a very merged way. This is because Winamp sends the 'timecode' based on the length of each title, and there is no way to assign a certain title to a certain cuelist automatically.

The solutions vary, depending from what you need to achieve, and how you want to control this.
- essentially, before starting the next song in Winamp, you need to disconnect the previously connected cuelist in Titan, and connect the new one
- of course, you can create some small macros, to make this as easy as possible
- in theory, you might also try to include macros in each cuelist which disconnect the own cuelist, and connect the next one. But I find this very cumbersome and unflexible. Makes it error-prone.
- another way would be that you also control Winamp from Titan. Now, create a master cuelist, which does both: connects/disconnects the correct cuelist, and fires the according song in Winamp.
- the more professional way would be to use timecode instead of Winamp (MIDI or LTC. To start with this, all you'd need is a separate computer with Ableton or Reaper or stuff like that, and a USB-to-MIDI interface, to feed real MIDI into Titan). The secret is to not use each title's time, but assign a separate timecode time. E.g. title 1 starts at (hh:mm:ss:ff) 01:00:00:00, title 2 starts at 02:00:00:00 (please know that there are only 24 hours - if you have more songs, you might use e.g. 01:00:00:00, 01:30:00:00, 02:00:00:00, 02:30:00:00)
- and finally, you can achieve this in Winamp, too: you need to append all songs to one very long song (need to do this in a separate program). But in that case you loose all ways to navigate, jump between songs, go to a certain timestamp for rehearsals etc...
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Re: Multiple Cue lists via Winamp timecode problem

Postby Gregory » 02 May 2014, 12:00

The timecode from Winamp has the track number where the hour would normally be. So if you put all of your songs into a playlist they will each get their own timecode value in the form [track]:[minutes]:[seconds].[frames]. If you have several playbacks you may wish to enable the Kill Out of Range Playbacks option which will kill cue lists after the latest time in the list has past. Note that if you do this you should probably record a final blackout cue in the list with the time that you want the list to end.
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Re: Multiple Cue lists via Winamp timecode problem

Postby JonasA » 02 May 2014, 18:14

Thanks alot!

The "Kill Out of Range Playbacks " did the job...

Now next problem...

Cuelist over 23 does not fire, any fix for this ?

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