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Postby Olie » 13 Oct 2008, 08:26

Here is the maths:

12 (Universes) x 512 (Channels per Universe) = 6144 (Total Channels)

If we have a maximum of 240 handles that gives us an average.

6144 (Total Channels) / 240 (Max number of fixtures) = 25.6 (Channels per fixture)

So we can have an average of 25.6 channels per fixture. Given that we can now have many more than 30 attributes per fixture and allot of fixtures have 16Bit on each attribute, it gives you allot of potential for filling up 12 universes.

From what I remember, just patching one hippo media server can fill up a whole universe.
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Postby jhld » 13 Oct 2008, 18:32

Ok, I get all that. But let's say you have a large rig made up of a mixture of conventionals and movers that pretty much eat up most of your handles, but not necessarily your universes. Then you want to add on a media server - let's say Catalyst which eats up a whole universe itself. Based on the knowledge that we can now have 12 universes on an Expert, I could still patch the Catalyst in, but how would I access the attributes for it if most or all of my handles are being used?

Another example would be if I had a lot of ColorBlasts that needed to be run individually. Even at 3 channels each they are channel - and handle - eaters. Couldn't I patch them to their own universe but access them through the software somehow?
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Postby niclights » 13 Oct 2008, 19:21

I don't really see how this is any different to having 240 handles and 2048 channels. Or how it differs from the D4 in respect of control, other than only having access of two attributes simultaneously instead of three + dimmer/pan/tilt.
The Titan Pearl pages through attributes in the same way the D4 does - ie. you keep pressing an attribute button to toggle through available options.

And remember that there is virtual dimmer meaning those LED fixtures can be run as normal automated fixtures, should you wish.


I can't help but feel you want to find problems with the new software before you have tried it. Once it is released you will be able to see how it works and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
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Postby jhld » 13 Oct 2008, 20:06

I don't think you understand my question. I'm not looking for faults at all. I think I'm seeing greater things ahead. My question isn't about attributes, but about accessing fixtures. Currently the Expert has 4 universes. Not all fixtures have the same amount of attributes. The number of fixtures patched to handles is not equal to dmx channels and universes. You are limited to some extent by the amount of handles (240). Titan for Pearl opens opens up more opportunity by providing more universes to patch into, but obviously not more handles. So - can I patch fixtures above 240 and still access them by fixture number or virtual handles and create groups and pallets for those?
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Postby Olie » 14 Oct 2008, 08:44

I think your asking why have we not made it so you can have more than 240 handles.

I think we feel that as it stands if you need more than 240 handles you should be looking at getting a Diamond 4 but for a majority of shows with less than 240 handles the Pearl Expert is suitable.
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Postby (iCe) » 14 Oct 2008, 18:50

jhld wrote:I don't think you understand my question. I'm not looking for faults at all. I think I'm seeing greater things ahead. My question isn't about attributes, but about accessing fixtures. Currently the Expert has 4 universes. Not all fixtures have the same amount of attributes. The number of fixtures patched to handles is not equal to dmx channels and universes. You are limited to some extent by the amount of handles (240). Titan for Pearl opens opens up more opportunity by providing more universes to patch into, but obviously not more handles. So - can I patch fixtures above 240 and still access them by fixture number or virtual handles and create groups and pallets for those?


Perhaps you could, but why on earth would you patch 240 or more fixtures on a Pearl? Same goes for the mediaservers. Don't get me wrong; I really like Pearls, but for these kind of purposes there are better consoles out there. I've used the second page a few times now, but only for things I don't need to access too often. Selecting via groups is possible offcourse, but with 240 movers I wonder how you would program your groups.
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when is the release date?

Postby cokethekid » 12 Nov 2008, 00:23

is the titan softeware comming soon???
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Postby niclights » 12 Nov 2008, 00:30

Almost certainly, yes.
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Postby cokethekid » 18 Nov 2008, 00:01

before this xmas or the next one?
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Postby niclights » 23 Nov 2008, 16:53

yes
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Postby SL » 09 Dec 2008, 23:36

In the new software, is there a matrix function available for dimmers and RGB fixtures? With the new function for sending 12 universes makes it possible to send out lot`s of LED, but offcourse it sucks when you don`t have a matrix function.

When this is not coming, is it possible to control a 36 ch LED fixture (12 groups of RGB) with the shape generator then?

Oh, and is it possible with the new software to connect a faderwing to the pearl? For example the ELC Lighting Sidekick 10.

And all the questions are for the software with a Pearl Expert.
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Postby Olie » 10 Dec 2008, 08:31

The first versions of the Titan software does not include a matrix function for LED fixtures. This is a possibility in the future. You do have much greater control over LED fixtures with the new virtual dimmer. This makes it allot easier to control LEDs.

It is certainly possible to use the shape generator to control the fixture you describe.

There is currently no fader wing for the Pearl Expert and no support for third party fader wings. You already have direct access to 80 playback faders, if you need more then I think you should be considering a D4 Vision.
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Postby SL » 10 Dec 2008, 11:54

Olie wrote:The first versions of the Titan software does not include a matrix function for LED fixtures. This is a possibility in the future. You do have much greater control over LED fixtures with the new virtual dimmer. This makes it allot easier to control LEDs.

It is certainly possible to use the shape generator to control the fixture you describe.

There is currently no fader wing for the Pearl Expert and no support for third party fader wings. You already have direct access to 80 playback faders, if you need more then I think you should be considering a D4 Vision.

Ow, yeah, i forgot about the 80 playback faders.

Thanks for the answers.
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Postby vbarie » 22 Dec 2008, 21:53

it is almost xmas. :)
Is there already an idea when we can get the software.

And is it possible that the put a led matix in de next version of titan.

that makes me very happy :)

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