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Led issues

Postby sbanquer » 01 Jun 2016, 04:10

I have venue slim pars. Just starting with Titan one. Trying to make intensity master on fader and different colors on playback page buttons. When I bring up intensity without any colors (7 channel mode) all LEDs come up to make white. Why or am I doing something wrong? Also want to use playback buttons for full scenes as I want my movers and lights to go to a programmed scene rather than using palates during showtime. The colors seem to fade from black up through colors that have been released. Example. All buttons released and when I hit red it goes green first then fades to red and this is not a cue list or chase but just a single cue
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Re: Led issues

Postby niclights » 01 Jun 2016, 10:22

To record separate controls set the record mode to [Channel] (toggle softkey A after pressing record). This will then only record the values in the programmer.

For the fade problem it sounds like the playback has some timing set. Check/adjust by viewing the cue/times.
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Re: Led issues

Postby sbanquer » 01 Jun 2016, 13:15

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll try to start over with programming a new show. So does release not release all values associated with a playback? Strobes don't release unless I'm in fade to fade mode 2 or I flash another sequence that has no strobe. I guess this has an advantage for busking? I'm used to Martin light jockeys priority level and transparent vs no transparent architecture but really want to get into more advanced programming that Lj doesn't really offer
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Re: Led issues

Postby Gregory » 01 Jun 2016, 15:05

By default playbacks do not release LTP values when they are killed (flash released, fader put to zero). You can change this behaviour by setting either the Global Release Mask in the Release menu or on a per playback basic in Playback Options. In both cases this is done by setting a mask of the attribute groups that should be released e.g. Colour or Intensity for strobe. There is also a Release Time which by default is 2 seconds and can be set globally or in each playback individually. If you press the Release button followed by a playback it will force the playback to release all attributes regardless of the current settings. There is another setting, Release To Home in the Release menu, which if Disabled will prevent playbacks from releasing back to the default values i.e. open white. This setting means that if you had a red playback and a blue playback both set to release colour and you fire the red followed by the blue when the blue is removed the fixtures will release back to red but when the red playback is removed the fixtures will stay in red (instead of returning to white).
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Re: Led issues

Postby sbanquer » 01 Jun 2016, 21:51

Thanks guys for your help. This fixes the strobe issues. One thing I have found is that the programmer is not clearing rgb values when I hit clear during programming and this is why the playbacks were fading up from black, through whatever color was left over in programmer, and into the chosen playbacks color. So should I be resetting all rgb values to 0 before clearing programmer as I figured that is what clear button was for. Sorry to be such a nuicance but I really do appreciate your time!!
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Re: Led issues

Postby niclights » 01 Jun 2016, 22:13

I'm not sure I fully understand what you are wanting to achieve but (copy/pasting my response to an almost identical question two topics down...) all attributes other than dimmer are LTP (latest takes precedence). By default clear will remove any controls from the programmer and deselect fixtures but will not change values (other than dimmer where applicable). By enabling the clear option [Release to Playback Values] clear will cause relevant values to return to the those in the most recently fired active playback.
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Re: Led issues

Postby sbanquer » 02 Jun 2016, 00:06

Ok after a couple of try's with these suggestions I've got what I want led wise. Thanks and tomorrow's day will involve adding some Mac 250s and adj innobeams to the equation thanks again. I'll bother you more after the weekend
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Re: Led issues

Postby sbanquer » 07 Jun 2016, 07:53

After coming back to this today I'm still not sure why bringing up the dimmer channel on these lights brings rgb values to full in the programmer? I only want the intensity channel at full and no rgb values in the programmer.
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Re: Led issues

Postby niclights » 07 Jun 2016, 10:50

Please see my first response.

When you select a fixture it is placed in the programmer. It will remain so until you press clear. If you then record a cue in [Fixture] mode (default) it will record all the controls for that fixture. When you adjust the value of a particular control (ie. dimmer) the control itself will go into the programmer. When recording in [Channel] mode only the controls in the programmer will be recorded. 'In programmer' states are represented in various ways including highlighting of the fixture handles and highlighting of the control values (where applicable). By default pressing clear will clear the programmer of all fixtures and controls.

Therefore to record just the dimmer information you need to do the following:

- Clear (to ensure there is nothing else in the programmer)
- Select fixture(s)
- Raise dimmer to full
- RECORD
- Toggle Softkey A so that it reads [Channel]
- <select destination handle>
- Clear (remove from programmer in order to test the cue)

All controls other than dimmer are LTP therefore the colour mix values will remain in the last state. If they were set to white then raising the dimmer cue will light the fixtures in white.

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