Groups of playbacks

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mhyga
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Groups of playbacks

Postby mhyga » 07 Mar 2015, 14:24

Hello,

i need a solution to lock playbacks among themselves on the on-screen playback

If I create 6 playbacks , i wish to make 2 groups of 3.

First group : play back 1 / playback 2 / playback 3

2nd group : playback A / playback B / playback C

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I want play only 1 playback of each group simultaneously and if i choose another playback into the same group, the first one will be stopped.

For example :

playback 1 AND playback B launched then i select playback 3 AND don't change playback B.
Actually i must to stopped playback 1 manually after select/launch playback 3.

Is it possible ?

I try with key profiles, don't find a solution. Priority parameters don't work either.

Thanks a lot


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Re: Groups of playbacks

Postby Quidam » 07 Mar 2015, 17:34

Hi,

Just out of curiosity : what are those cues for ?

You can achieve what you want by recording your cues as cuelists with only one cue and using macros.
In the cue list view, there's a macro column. There, you can assign a macro execution to any cue.
Record a macro that kills the pb you want and assign it to your pb3.

For that macro :
Press [Macro]
Press [B Record]
Give it a name ("kill A and B") then press on an empty virtual button in the playbacks window.
press [Release] then pb A. Press [Release] then pb B.
Press [Macro] to end the keypress recording. Your new macro appears on the chosen button.
Record pb C as a one-cue cuelist.
Press [Open/View] then pb C.
Click in the macro column then use softkeys to select your macro (it will be at the end of the list).

Do the same for every pb that needs to kill other pb.

Note : Depending on what you are trying to achieve, maybe you could alternately use Fade mode 3 (see in Edit Times menu for the selected pb), which is a crossover mode : everything on stage will fade to what is recorded in a mode 3 pb and, when you deactivate it, everything goes back to previous state. Very useful for timed blackouts, for example, or for 'temporary' cues like a 'video' state in corporate shows.

Charles
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Re: Groups of playbacks

Postby niclights » 07 Mar 2015, 17:45

(Charles beat me to it but I'll post it anyway as I also used autoloads)

Yes, this is possible.

The trick is to use cue-lists that autoload the source playbacks and also fire macros that kill other cue-lists within the same group:

- Create your source playbacks. For this exercise label them as '1 (source)', '2 (source)', '3 (source)' and 'A (source)', 'B (source)', 'C (source)'.
- Then record six cue-lists, each with one empty cue. Label these as '1', '2', '3' and 'A', 'B', 'C'.
- Next record six macros. Each one should be RELEASE followed by one of the cue-list playbacks. ie. RELEASE '1'. Label these as 'Kill 1', 'Kill 2', 'Kill 3', 'Kill A', 'Kill B' and 'Kill C' respectively.
- Now view the cue-list labelled '1' and select the macro cell in the first cue. Then select the macros 'Kill 2' and 'Kill 3'. Repeat this for all the other cue-lists using the appropriate macros to kill the other cue-list playbacks in the group.
- Next view the first cue-list again and select the autoload cell in the first cue and select '1 (source)'. Repeat this for all the other cue-lists adding the corresponding source playback to the autoload.
- Finally toggle the [Playback Options] for each cue-list to [Fire First Cue Enabled].

Now selecting any of the playbacks labelled 1/2/3 will fire the corresponding source playback and kill any other active cue-lists in the group (and therefore its associated source playback). In a practical scenario it would probably make sense to hide the source playbacks away on another page or perhaps unassign them from handles completely.

One limitation of this is that you cannot kill an active cue-list by selecting it again. To do this you could add a second empty to to each cue-list which fires the 'Kill' macro corresponding to that cue-list, thus killing itself when it goes to the second cue.
Alternatively you could create a separate 'Kill group' cue-list or macro button. If you use a cue-list to fire all the 'Kill' macros you would need to setup a key profile flash action for cue-list touch and assign that in [Playback Options] or a second cue linked to the first that fires a macro to kill itself. If you use a macro it would consist of three steps (eg. RELEASE '1', RELEASE '2', RELEASE '3') so that all the cue-list playbacks in the group were killed at the same time.

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