Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

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Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby Music & Lights » 10 Jan 2018, 10:53

Hi Avolites,
how can i resolve the patching of a fixture with 3 tilts & 1 pan channel?
how can i get the shape generator to work efficiently ?
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby niclights » 10 Jan 2018, 10:58

Which console are you using?
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby Music & Lights » 10 Jan 2018, 12:14

Titan 1
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby niclights » 10 Jan 2018, 12:29

You need to use cells for the three tilts.

The shape generator relies on the attribute ID. There can only be one instance of any particular attribute ID within a personality. In this case attribute ID's 'Pan' and 'Tilt'.

So you should have only one pan and one tilt attribute with attribute ID's 'Pan' and 'Tilt' respectively.

Create a mode to represent the Tilt cells. This will be a mode with just the tilt attribute.

In the main fixture mode you want to have pan in the master fixture with a resolution and channel offset as normal. But the three tilts should be the tilt cells with the appropriate channel offsets where the tilt in the cell links to a tilt in the master fixture with no resolution or channel offset.

The easiest way to achieve this is to add the normal attributes in the order of their channels while holding the alt key (this will create a multi-cell fixture and place them in the master). When you come to the tilt channels select the cells tab at the bottom, change the count to 3, select the tilt cell from the drop-down and then add the cells ensuring the 'add links' option is ticked (it should be by default). This will automatically link to the tilt in the cells to a tilt in the master with no resolution or channel offset. You can then carry on adding any remaining attributes to the master as required.
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby Music & Lights » 10 Jan 2018, 14:01

wow !
Is there any fixture already made.....i can open up and copy to suit my requirement...
i basically need to open up in builder and see how it is designed.

can u tell me which brand has a good working 3 head spider....

thanks.
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby icke_siegen » 10 Jan 2018, 14:17

Can you give an idea about the brand, model, and DMX layout of the model you are asking for?
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby Music & Lights » 10 Jan 2018, 14:41

Its a Chinese Fixture ......need i say more ?? :mrgreen:
......i know.......
its a 10 ch fixture

1 - X infinity rotation
2 - X stepping
3 - Y1
4 - Y2
5 - Y3
6 - Dimmer
7 - Strobe
8 - Color
9 - color Macro
10 - color macro speed
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby icke_siegen » 10 Jan 2018, 14:54

If you want to understand the cells mechanics, simply search for the term 'spider' on http://personalities.avolites.com/ - most of them have some tilt cells. And then, there is none who could describe it better than Nic.
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby niclights » 10 Jan 2018, 16:52

There's nothing in the library wth 10 channels and three tilts on offsets 3,4 and 5 but for an example of a similar fixture you could look at AFX Spder 9BeamFX.
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby Music & Lights » 10 Jan 2018, 17:11

Hi Nic
Yes i found that View Personality
AFX Spider 9BeamFX (UKAX9FX1.R20)
View Source
Ch Attribute Type Loc HL LL
1 Pan/Tilt
Pan LTP Pan (127) Pan (0) Pan (0)
2 Other
Tilt 1 LTP 127 0 0
3 Other
Tilt 2 LTP 127 0 0
4 Other
Tilt 3 LTP 127 0 0
5 Intensity
Dimmer HTP 255 0 0
6 Intensity
Shutter LTP Open Open Open
7 Colour
Red LTP 255 255 0
8 Colour
Green LTP 255 255 0
9 Colour
Blue LTP 255 0 229
10 Other
White LTP 0 0 0
11 Effects
Effect LTP Open Open Open
12 Other
Effect Spd LTP 128 0 0


My question now is how well will the 3 tilts work with the Shape Generator ?
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Re: Spider with 3 tilts & 1 pan

Postby niclights » 10 Jan 2018, 17:31

That is just the web site representation of the R20 personality used in Classic consoles. You need to load the .d4 file into Personality Builder if you want to see an example of how tilt cells work. In Titan if you select the master fixture and create a tilt shape it will give you options to run on super (master) or sub (cells) fixtures.

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